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   <title>The Dreaded Apostrophe</title>
   <link>http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/forum/forum/m-1223079953/</link>
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   <description><![CDATA[I know that there are even skilled writer who fear The Dreaded Apostrophe, they're not stupid or incapable, just suffering the effect of poor teaching.<br /><br />It was rather appalling to watch an eight year old schoolgirl on television a few days ago, as she went around skilfully correcting a number of public apostrophe errors, only to interview a learned language professor who suggested she was wasting her time, and that everyone should forget the apostrophe and just write as they speak because we can't &quot;see&quot; apostrophes in spoken language language.<br /><br />I don't know what his name was, but the man is a fool. In fact, in terms of language, I'd call him a dangerous fool. While he may be correct in his assertion than an apostrophe cannot be &quot;seen&quot; by the eye in speech, there can be no doubt that it can be &quot;seen&quot; by the mind when listening to a speaker, as the context, tone, and inflection of the their speech conveys much of the meaning of their word, in the same way as the apostrophe does for the written word. It was refreshing to see the little schoolgirl had a better grasp of language that he did (whoever employs him should fire him and hire her), and she was even able to make it clear that the dreaded txtspk of mobile phones was fine on phones, but had no place in when proper words were being used for common conversation and communication. She basically wiped the floor with him.<br /><br />Apostrophes are policed quite strictly within the main site, and hopefully all but the most subtle uses (and there are cases where the intended meaning can require some careful thought and analysis regarding the final placement of the apostrophe) are handles correctly.<br /><br />To this end, and to help others who may have suffered from the teaching of any other fools who think along the same lines as the one referred to above, the following site may help simplify the position of the apostrophe, and alleviate their misguided thinking...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.dreaded-apostrophe.com/" title="www.dreaded-apostrophe.com/" onclick="target='_new';">The Dreaded Apostrophe</a><br /><br />If you don't have time to read the whole thing, then it basically boils down to one simple rule: <strong>Use an apostrophe when letters are missing.</strong><br /><br />Granted, you may have to know a bit more about language than most in order to be able to apply that rule in every case, but if you read the whole site, and the examples, it works. And anything that boils down to one rule can't be bad.]]></description>
   <pubDate>Sat, 4 Oct 2008 01:25:53</pubDate>
   <dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
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   <title>Site Appearance</title>
   <link>http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/forum/forum/m-1214247096/</link>
   <comments>http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/forum/forum/m-1214247096/#num1</comments>
   <description><![CDATA[I don't know if this is in any way connected with the Captain's return to grace and ability to see the Forum graphics, but I was using IE to view the main site today, and I noticed the page content was not being placed in the correct place - I doubt there really is a connection, but I'd be interested to know what you are seeing.<br /><br />The correct appearance of the main site is as it appears in Firefox, namely the Navigation panel on the left, and the main content panel that occupies most of the page, should both be aligned at their tops, and be spaced about one line below the image at the head of the page.<br /><br />This is fine in Firefox, but IE is placing the main content panel almost immediately beneath and and touching the header image - which is not right.<br /><br />I haven't been changing anything concerning this recently, but the placement is a long standing issue with IE behaviour being incorrect. The styling had been ok until I noticed this, and was usually unnoticeable, with the error on position only being about 1 pixel, which I could live with, however 10 pixels or so is 10 to many.<br /><br />Any feedback appreciated.]]></description>
   <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:51:36</pubDate>
   <dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
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   <title>Name change on site</title>
   <link>http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/forum/forum/m-1212045768/</link>
   <comments>http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/forum/forum/m-1212045768/#num1</comments>
   <description><![CDATA[I don't know about search engines being flummoxed but according to my computer the site has been renamed over night.&nbsp;&nbsp;According to the bar at the bottom of the screen I am looking at Home Page - Farm Wiki!]]></description>
   <pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 08:22:48</pubDate>
   <dc:creator>The Fox</dc:creator>
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   <title>The great big Category debate</title>
   <link>http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/forum/forum/m-1211820889/</link>
   <comments>http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/forum/forum/m-1211820889/#num1</comments>
   <description><![CDATA[I don't really know how to phrase this, or even kick of the discussion for that matter, but I've been looking into categories and categorisation recently, and there doesn't seem to be any accepted group of these, or any sort of standardisation within the UrbEx or historical research communities. Having looked to them for guidance, there seems to be one camp that has its foot firmly placed in impossibly broad categories that are next to useless, and impossibly specific categories, that become useless because there are so many of them. The former produces member lists that are huge, and cry out for more categories, or sub-categories, to be added, while the latter has so many individual entries that it no longer does its job of reducing the number of subjects listed.<br /><br />I'm throwing this open to the forum for anyone to post their tuppwnceworth, something in the way of a bit of brainstorming to see if anything interesting appears.<br /><br />Anything's welcome, be it a description of how a meaningful collection of categories might be created and managed, all the way to list of categories that might apply to our subject items.<br /><br />I'll be keeping away, to start with at least, as I don't want to steer any thought in any particular direction, intentionally or unintentionally.<br /><br />What I have done, for the moment, is add a Category Cloud to the foot of the site's pages, showing what is available and in use at the moment.<br /><br />It's not a finished item - probably one of those things that never will be, but at the moment, lacks structure.<br /><br />One important definition that <span style="font-style: italic;">is</span> in place is the rule on plurals: as our pages usually refer to a single subject or item, category name will always be singular. Yes. it will be wrong on occasion, but then again, so would the plural, and having both just means two category names for one category subject, and that's even sillier.]]></description>
   <pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 17:54:49</pubDate>
   <dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
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   <title>Blog</title>
   <link>http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/forum/forum/m-1203871910/</link>
   <comments>http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/forum/forum/m-1203871910/#num1</comments>
   <description><![CDATA[There is apparently a problem with the Blog's safety certificate.]]></description>
   <pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:51:50</pubDate>
   <dc:creator>The Fox</dc:creator>
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   <title>Google develops Wikipedia 'rival'</title>
   <link>http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/forum/forum/m-1197684043/</link>
   <comments>http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/forum/forum/m-1197684043/#num1</comments>
   <description><![CDATA[Google developing a Wikipedia rival?<br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">Google is developing an online publishing platform where people can write entries on subjects they know, an idea that's close to Wikipedia's user-contributed encyclopedia but with key differences.</span><br /><br />This is interesting, since our appearance an operation mimics that of Wikipedia, but without the technical complexity that has developed as its code has grown, and its use of an SQL database.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/idg/IDG_002570DE00740E18C12573B10046E582.html?ex=1355288400&amp;en=97b37f8038ef7ac1&amp;ei=5088&amp;partner=rssnyt&amp;emc=rss">http://www.nytimes.com/idg/IDG.....r=rssnyt&amp;emc=rss</a><br /><br />One of the key differences seems to be that of anonymity. Like Wikipedia, our content is <span style="font-style: italic;">largely</span> anonymous, which is generally appropriate for the much of the content, as this Forum provides the medium for discussing or reviewing subjects, and the consensus is generally what gets published on the main site. We differ from Wikipedia in that we recognise that personal memories and recollections may apply to some of the items we can cover, so have the addition of a <span style="font-style: italic;">Footnotes</span> section, which appears at the end of an article, and includes personalised information. <span style="font-style: italic;">Personalised</span> is still a bit of a misnomer though, as most contributions are received under web IDs, so we generally replace these with terms like <span style="font-style: italic;">local resident</span> or similar, since the IDs mean little to the reader.<br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">The project, which is in an invitation-only beta stage, lets users create clean-looking Web pages with their photo and write entries on, for example, insomnia. Those entries are called &quot;knols&quot; for &quot;unit of knowledge,&quot; Google said. Google wants the knols to develop into a deep repository of knowledge, covering topics such as geography, history and entertainment. Anonymous users constantly update Wikipedia entries in an ever-growing online encyclopedia that's edited by a network of vetted editors. But Google asserts that the Web's development so far has neglected the importance of the bylined author.<br /><br />&quot;We believe that knowing who wrote what will significantly help users make better use of web content,&quot; wrote Udi Manber, vice president of engineering, on the official Google blog. Google said anyone can write about any topic, and repetition of entries on the same subjects is beneficial. Entries can't be edited or revised by other people, in contrast to Wikipedia. However, other readers will be able to rank and review others' entries, which will then be interpreted by Google's search engine when displaying results.</span><br /><br />I can see part of the logic behind this, but wonder how it will work in reality, since there is no opportunity for edit or revision by others. One of the strength's of Wikipedia is that the community acts to vet and eliminate spurious content and hijacking of subjects by those with an 'Agenda', or those wishing to promote our old friend, <span style="font-style: italic;">The Conspiracy Theory</span>. With no edit or review, it would seem that anyone can publish anything, and it will be left in place, limited only by receiving low reader ranking.<br /><br />As an example, our page on the Rudolf Hess flight to Scotland is indeed locked, and written more as an article on its own, than a SeSco page, however, it's been locked to prevent certain groups using it, and been written using only accepted info regarding the event, while still referring to the other interpretations, without actively promoting or ignoring them. The same is true of the Machrihanish (&quot;Scotland's Area 51&quot;) page, only it has been left open, being unlikely to attract any politically motivated attacks.<br /><br />If anyone has any thoughts on the concept, and anonymous versus bylined contribution, I'd be interested to hear them, BUT please don't launch into any anything based merely on Google-hate, which will just be deleted, and concentrate on discussion of the concept.]]></description>
   <pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:00:43</pubDate>
   <dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
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   <title>Discussion</title>
   <link>http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/forum/forum/m-1163049188/</link>
   <comments>http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/forum/forum/m-1163049188/#num1</comments>
   <description><![CDATA[Following a discussion about discussion pages (sorry <img src="/blahdocs/Smilies/blush.png" style="vertical-align: middle" alt="" /> ) I've implemented a trial <strong>Discussion Tab</strong> on the pages of the main site.<br /><br />The idea is to provide a page where visitors and users can add comments (or generally discuss) the subject or content of the parent page without altering the page itself, which seems to be a possible worry.<br /><br />It's up for trial and comment, just click the Discuss tab when it can be seen, and it will offer you the option of creating or beginning a discussion page if one does not exist already. If it does exist, then it just opens it.<br /><br />It's mainly for evaluation, the coding a bit ropey (on the writer's admission) and there are one or two aspects that need more work, but if it's not there, you can't play with it, so as usual, fire in.<br /><br />If you find it does something naughty, or that you don't like, then please give some feedback and let me know.]]></description>
   <pubDate>Thu, 9 Nov 2006 05:13:08</pubDate>
   <dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
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   <title>Titles and indexes</title>
   <link>http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/forum/forum/m-1152701711/</link>
   <comments>http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/forum/forum/m-1152701711/#num1</comments>
   <description><![CDATA[I'm looking on some thought for the best, or most appropriate way to put titles on articles.<br><br>Since both are technically correct, and the context <span style="font-style: italic;">should</span> define which to use, but the you have to decide what the context is <img src="/blahdocs/Smilies/roll.png" style="vertical-align: middle" alt="" />, what do you find the best way to title articles in here?<br><br>Is the subject most important, in which case a title like <a href="http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/index.php/Secrets/GunBatteryPortkil" title="www.secretscotland.org.uk/index.php/Secrets/GunBatteryPortkil" onclick="target='_new';">Gun Battery Portkil</a> is the obvious choice.<br><br>However...<br><br>Is the location of more importance or interest, in whch case a title like <a href="http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/index.php/Secrets/RosneathNavalBase" title="www.secretscotland.org.uk/index.php/Secrets/RosneathNavalBase" onclick="target='_new';">Rosneath Naval Base</a> becomes the more logical selection.<br><br>I find I'm confused as I review them, and what seems to happen is that a batch of similar articles get a uniform presentation, but if there's only one, and the overall format doesn't look right, then I'll use the more obvious 'spoken' name, rather than the logical 'categorised' choice'.<br><br>The pages are indeed categorised (see the categories listed at the bottom of each page if applicable) but they are still a step away from the Contents Page, so a reader has to find them first, so they're 'second level' approach, removed from the immediacy of the Contents Page.<br><br>Have a contemplative look at the <a href="http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/index.php/Main/HomePage" title="www.secretscotland.org.uk/index.php/Main/HomePage" onclick="target='_new';">Contents Page</a> for the site, and let me know your thoughts.]]></description>
   <pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 11:55:11</pubDate>
   <dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
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   <title>BUG REPORTS</title>
   <link>http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/forum/forum/m-1147912322/</link>
   <comments>http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/forum/forum/m-1147912322/#num1</comments>
   <description><![CDATA[I'm trying a new option somenes's written, and it's looking a bit the worse for wear when subjected to this site's configuration.<br><br>It incorporates a google map directly into a page.<br><br>Appreciate if you had a look and tried panning and zooming on it and telling me what it does in response.<br><br>Click on <strong>A Map Test</strong> on the Home/Contents page, or follow the link <a href="http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/index.php/Secrets/AMapTest">http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/index.php/Secrets/AMapTest</a><br><br>Ta.]]></description>
   <pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 01:32:02</pubDate>
   <dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
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   <title>Wiki articles</title>
   <link>http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/forum/forum/m-1123348268/</link>
   <comments>http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/forum/forum/m-1123348268/#num1</comments>
   <description><![CDATA[The only worry I have about Wiki is that someone - it would appear to me - can come along and edit your input.<br><br>Maybe Apollo can reassure me ?]]></description>
   <pubDate>Sat, 6 Aug 2005 18:11:08</pubDate>
   <dc:creator>Captain Brittles</dc:creator>
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