I was wondering whether these might be worth entries, unfortunately I don't have a great deal of knowledge of either one.
First off, we have the now demolished, or largely demolished Ravenspark Hospital, I remember seeing a site which had a load of photos taken within this place where it had a rather Marie Celeste feel with large amounts of items and equipment left lying. Now as far as I know the site is pretty much flattened.
Secondly, we have the Virginia Galleries. All I know is that sited in Virginia St in Glasgow they were a haven for small traders who operated a large market inside (not the Argyle Market I might add). This building was grade 1 listed, and had originally been used by the tobacco barons. Unfortunately, Marks and Sparks wished to construct a loading bay adjacent and the contractors 'accidentally' damaged the building.
Basically, the blame game was spun out, and both Tarmac and M&S had stronger lawyers than the traders who had to be quickly evacuated, many of which never set up again due to the high prices in Glasgows centre. The building despite being a grade 1 listed was pulled down and disappeared.
Ravenspark has been explored and photographed by UrbEx enthusiasts, but none are members in here, or have offered their pics. With none I've found so far being pd (public domain) the only way to use any of the pic would be to steal them and violate copyright.
I don't know the Virginia Galleries, and it seems to have been a hidden gem that I just never came across (let me give the trashy Princes Square a mention, just because I was all but thrown out for taking a few photographs when it was opened), but seems to have been something of a lost cause to those who did.
Again, same problem with decent pics.
I don't know the history of either in detail, and don't have the time at the moment to divert and start basic pages, but have pencilled them away.
There are actually quite a lot of these galleries and similar that were lost in the postwar period, and while I don't want to point any elbows, it's a shame that the vociferous folk seem to do a lot of jumping up and down and shouting now, if there's anything like a Tesco or M&S or the like nearby, but there's not a squeak from them about the numerous similar features lost where there's no "Big Name" to shout at and blame.
There used to be a good second hand book place in there, as well as numerous other traders, I'll try and find some links. This is related to a comic place that used to be there
Oh and surprise surprise....flats were built on the site, am I the only one sick of seeing 'luxury' eggboxes appearing everywhere?
Regarding Ravenspark, even if we can get some some info together it would be good. UrbEx might have been the site I saw. Pity they've never thought in joining here as they would be a good asset to the site.
Main reason I've not been as active recently is that I'm part of a team doing a Sci-Fi role playing game based on the Starblazers comics, those that were similiar to the Commando's in size and also published by DC Thomson, and proof reading a 600+ page book is no joke.
Although the old Eglinton Castle hasn't got a full mention, if you search the Main Site for Eglinton, you might find something interesting. I've discovered the area was opened up for mining (coal) and there is a "secret" tunnel running under the castle ground, and which can still be accessed - even if it does have metal gates barring the way in to its flooded remains.
Bogside Racecourse has been pencilled in for months - see Part 2 below.
The power station is so well covered elsewhere (it's a favourite for the UrBex types), it seems like a waste of time and effort for in here, and we have had a video contributed somewhere in the forum already.
Louden Castle sounds interesting, it's not something I've tripped over in any of the wartime references, so have flagged the name for some attention at some point.
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This may sound negative (and of course it is), but I hope The Fox will chip in with some support bases on our longer experience of playing with this toy.
There used be a specific place set up for pages wanted, or suggestions, but the bottom line was that it was almost completely counter-productive.
While the aim had been to provide an easy way to note interesting subjects, with the intention of using the listing to inspire the addition of a proper page when time and information allowed, the actual result was create a steadily growing monster that simply grew and grew while pages which were easier to populate were created and completed.
The list of suggestions just got larger as more proposals were added, and left dormant while current work progressed.
Eventually, the list became so long it was removed as its constantly increasing size as no-one else took on any of the subjects became depressing and demotivating.
Since being removed, many of the items have been added as pages, but even now, almost a year later, that list still has a few dozen items it, and has not been revisited for weeks/months.
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I don't know what the answer is.
I'm loth to suggest that suggestions are banned (and as you'll see, the Admin hasn't stepped in and shut this thread down), but past experience suggests that they are all put pointless, as it's unlikely anyone will ever look at the list once it has reached some undefined critical length.
From our past experience, it would seem that there are two things to do with a suggestion:
I've you have enough information on the subject, even if it's not details, but defines what the the subject is, and where it is if that is relevant, then go ahead and create a page for it. Once the page exists it may be noticed by someone with more knowledge who might add to it, or may be spotted by someone to whom it is relevant or new to, and they will go and find out more, and add their findings to the page.
If you don't have enough information to do the above - forget it - it will not happen as pages don't write themselves.
I know the second option might seem a bit severe, but experience suggests it's better not to bother at all if there's nothing to provide inspiration.
Better just to start a thread on the item here, in the relevant section of the forum, and see if anything comes out of the resultant discussion, if any.
That's one of the reasons the text on the front of the forum advises the use of proper thread titles (and not, dare I say, "subject suggestion" since that means no-one knows what the subjects are unless they open the thread, and dozens of threads titled "subject suggestion" are a little confusing).
Yes , the Pages Wanted seemed like a good idea at the time but soon stacked up a pile of subjects that were going nowhere.
I think, given that this is a collaberative wiki site, if you have an idea for a page just put it up on the site even as a very limited stub. These can then be expanded later. If the subject has a site page it can be more easily found than it would if lost in the Forum.
Starting a page is easy!
At the end of the day, here as on all sites, Admin is the final arbiter of content but I have never had a page deleted yet and I have started more than a hundred.
I am not sure about Apollo's comment on Inverkip which has been in my pending tray for some time. I think it worth a page and I might risk the wrath of Admin one of these days particularly since I recently met an engineer who was involved in the latter stages of building and initial stages of service availability.
I'm still not up to speed with Halifax moments - as intended. Possibly because I've never seen one of their ads through, only as much as passes before grabbing the remote and getting rid of them.
My Halifax moment is picturing that moon-faced fool Howard Brown taking the supporting role (to the boot) in George Orwell's 1984 "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." And I'm reputed to be a nice guy so you can imagine how far up my nose seeing or hearing HBOS ads go (on and on and on and...).
Even though he, and his campaign, were axed in April, we're still being treated like cretins by HBOS as he takes a goldfish for a walk.
Don't watch the ads - but I can't stop them when they're not on a telly under my control - and see the news about them.
According to the admen, who are appearing on a Beeb documentary series at the moment, their ads work on one level. To hook the stupidest majority of people dumb enough to watch the ads and believe everything see - and that's their own description, not mine. They didn't even try and hide the fact that they're just targeting the mass of people that simply run on autopilot, and will bend to any suggestion thrown at them.
One of their examples was Stella Artois beer. I don't drink (not teetotal or anything, just don't drink in the accepted sense), but it seems that "Stella" is considered to be a kewl beer to drink, and a quality product that attracts a premium price.
There's only one small problem with that concept... back in Belium, where the stuff originates, it's considered nothing more than bog standard cat's pee by the Belgians - the premium aspect is nothing more than a myth spun by the British ad makers, and their client is simply ripping off everyone in Britain that buys what is nothing more than a standard brew.
Eh' - Stella Artois comes from Belgium and though the brew sold in the U.K. is probably not as tasty - or as strong - as the original served up in Flanders and Brussels place it is quite thirst quenching.
A bit like Scotch [whisky] when you travel abroad you see brand names never seen - or sold - in Scotland, exotic labels like McGregor Mist, Black Douglas and Water of Wallace etc.
Told you I wasn't a drinker... or did I drink too much while researching, hmmmmm...
There shouldn't really be any difference in the product purchased in Britain versus that in Belgium, unless UK legislation prohibits some ingredients, and provided it is actually exactly the same product.
Brands like that operate strict quality control, and control the method of production ruthlessly. If an overseas licensed manufacturer fouls up, they come down like the proverbial ton of bricks.
I did a stint in similar circumstances in the food industry, and the level of detail the principal enforces borders on the fanatical. Make a mistake, the lot goes down the drain on the principal's order, and they don't bear the cost.
Told you I wasn't a drinker... or did I drink too much while researching, hmmmmm...
There shouldn't really be any difference in the product purchased in Britain versus that in Belgium, unless UK legislation prohibits some ingredients, and provided it is actually exactly the same product.
Brands like that operate strict quality control, and control the method of production ruthlessly. If an overseas licensed manufacturer fouls up, they come down like the proverbial ton of bricks.
I did a stint in similar circumstances in the food industry, and the level of detail the principal enforces borders on the fanatical. Make a mistake, the lot goes down the drain on the pricipal's order, and they don't bear the cost.
I've heard the same about Budweiser beer, while it largely seems to be regarded as heavily diluted cat's pee over here, apparently it's quite a different brew to the US original.
Sometimes there are differences due to regulations, apparently at one time Irn Bru couldn't be sold in the USA as some part of it didn't pass the FDA rules.
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