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Apollo
August 3, 2008, 4:06pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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A picture may be worth a thousand words, but if they're all "Ahh, emmm, er, oh" then it doesn't really matter, and two thousand would be no better.

You're right about the background, and even the buildings are all but featureless, and of a type that's likely to be long gone - the shelter at the gate is probably more likely to still be standing alone today than they are.

Well, I just grab the cavatars when I see them, and that little pie-faced cutie is indeed clearly a Scottish Fold (should have a page, shouldn't they?).
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The Fox
August 3, 2008, 4:29pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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A breed that arose in Ayrshire according to my sis in OZ who has 2 of them.   I don't see why they shouldn't have a page I am very fond of cats anyway although  I am a catfree zone at present.
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Apollo
August 3, 2008, 5:36pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I assume good ol' Wikpedia is accurate, since breeders would have blasted it, placing the origin in Perthshire. I'd never bothered to look before, and had no idea they were so "new", and just assumed they were another breed as old as any other:

Origin:
The original Scottish Fold was a long-haired white-haired barn cat named Susie, who was found at a farm near Coupar Angus in Perthshire, Scotland, in 1961. Susie's ears had an unusual fold in their middle, making her resemble an owl. When Susie had kittens, two of them were born with folded ears, and one was acquired by William Ross, a neighbouring farmer and cat-fancier. Ross registered the breed with the Governing Council of the Cat Fancy in Great Britain and started to breed Scottish Fold kittens with the help of geneticist Pat Turner. The breeding program produced 76 kittens in the first three years – 42 with folded ears and 34 with straight ears. The conclusion from this was that the ear mutation is due to a simple dominant gene; if one parent provides the gene for straight ears, and one parent provides the gene for folded ears, the kittens will be Folds.

Susie's only reproducing offspring was a female Fold named Snooks who was also white; a second kitten was neutered shortly after birth. Three months after Snooks' birth, Susie was killed by an automobile. All Scottish Fold cats share a common ancestry to Susie and Snooks, the origination point assurance a lineage quality rare among pedigreed animals.

(Fox, chickens, cats... anything else?   )
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Apollo
August 3, 2008, 5:39pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I have more EKCO info, which arrived somewhat faster than I expected, but sadly no location, so I'm just going to take my time reading through it.
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Apollo
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It's a minor point in some respects, but significant and worth noting that the pic posted earlier of the EKCO factory is understood to be wartime factory built by the government for any required production to be set up in.

EKCO occupied this until the end of the war, and then moved into their own purpose built premises.

The wartime factory is therefore probably long gone, and it occurs to me that the postwar factory has probably gone as well, if not just in the natural course of changes to the area, then as a result of the current M74 extension, which I note passes either through or close to the land where I would have expected this factory to be sited.

I know I was they around 18 months+ ago, and grabbed some pics of places being demolished thereabouts, but none were identified (derelicts), so I don't even know what they were, just grabbed the pics for the sake of it.

As regards production, following the end of the war, I now know for sure that the EKCO factory produced car radios, so was latterly involved in domestic manufacture.
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Oldbob66
January 6, 2009, 8:36pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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This is an elderly Journalist called Bob Johnstone in Rutherglen.

The ECKO factory is now buried and the land is a private housing sector called Farme Castle Estate. It stretches from Riverford Road to Duchess Road in the Farme Cross area. As a boy I remember it well.

In the 1950's the area was a hive of industrial activity There was the bagmaking and despatch departments of the old co-operative society (S.C.W.S.); Alexander's Chairworks, the rear of the Clyde Paper Mill and the buried foundations of the old Farme Pit.

Towards Dalmarnock on Downiebrae Road was Crawford's stick factory and the Bolt Work plus smaller units and other buildings, etc.

Within the immediate adjacent area of the ECKO factory was the famous Farme Castle. steeped deep in Scottish history with the presence of Robert the Bruce and Edward 1 many centuries ago.

My 92-year-old brother Jack who lives in Milngavie grew up there when he stayed at Farme Cottage. Recalling those happy days Jack mentioned a nine hole golf course which he and my late father, William, spent many hours.

For more information or any other related queries I can be contacted by Email - johnstone479@btinternet.com  -
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JadeFalcon
January 6, 2009, 9:36pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Now that really deserves the line

"Eeee...I remember when this was all factories"
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Captain Brittles
January 6, 2009, 11:20pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from JadeFalcon
Now that really deserves the line

"Eeee...I remember when this was all factories"


Some of us do remember factories.  
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Apollo
January 7, 2009, 12:19pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Superb additional info, thank you

Although we do have some plans of the ECKO factory, and permission to use them (honest, it's just getting time to do all the little jobs that need done), the way they were drawn means the actual location details were not included on the same drawings, so neither we, nor the ECKO historian (who is based in England and has the Scottish info only as part of the archives he's collected, and is understandably not familiar with the area) had any of the street details.

We had assumed the site had been cleared, but hadn't hazarded a guess at it being built over, but nowadays, that's almost a foregone conclusion.

The page is already tagged for update with other new info, but I'll have to try and drag it forward a bit, especially with the location now being revealed.
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JadeFalcon
January 7, 2009, 3:36pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Captain Brittles


Some of us do remember factories.  


I wasn't trying to be sarcastic, I just remember the oft quoted line you used to get in comedies "I remember when this was all trees", the factories line is sadly true.  I find the constant redevelopment of the landscape with yet more soulless 'luxury flats' or 'luxury villages' to be despairing, and wish that there was something built that the 'common man' could use instead of constantly pandering to the more money than sense brigade.

I imagine though that in the current economic climate we won't see the constant rush of construction continue on the same scale.

Additionally, while It might seem strange, I think sites like the now gone Meadowside Granaries to be impressive in their own right and to be part of the local flavour and history.  Meh, it's maybe just me being a bit mad.
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Captain Brittles
January 7, 2009, 7:58pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi Jade, I know you weren't being sarcastic, I simply forgot to insert a wink on my post.  

Sadly, like yourself I can remember trees (where in a lot of places there are now up-market villas and suchlike) as well factories. I think we're on the same nostalgic wavelength (is that a fair starter for a new section Admin?) and it may well be the next generation or two down the line that will genuinely not know what a factory is.

As far as the countryside and 'near countryside' - and by that I mean what used to be officially known the 'Greenbelt' but which is mostly now named as 'Greenfield Release' by the local Soviets - the present and future recession should halt rampant and mainly unrestrained building activity.

Sorry for deviating off-topic peeps.
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