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Admin
July 30, 2008, 10:00pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Don't worry about the detail, or complexity, since it ultimately comes down to Muggins to manage.

The important thing in here is to stimulate some thoughts - if they're workable they'll be played with and influence the Categories, if not, they'll silently slip into the shadows.

I don't really want to critique individual items, but we don't have any geographic categorisation, and I'm not suggesting it be started (yet?), but the north, south, east, west is both too vague, and dependent on personal perception. Think of where English peeps think "The North" is!

The local government areas would probably do fine, but even their boundaries are a pain to find - get it wrong and I guarantee there would be a string of disgusted locals delivering virtual sackloads of complaints about having their assets stolen - well, maybe not, but you probably know what I mean.

I have to say I'm holding out for inspiration, and finding out some sort of easy, automated, way to put our point on a main map like I have on the ROC post page. However, as the data is in a completely different format, I don't see that coming soon. Maybe a long winter night project

I might add that the current categories were created as best guesses with nothing to guide them, some are good, some are bad, some will stay, some will go. For example, Gun Battery has gone (as an individual page category - it is now a top level category, and will change to Artillery Battery soon). Remains will probably be targeted next, since this can be implied for most items we report on. More useful, and likely to stay, is Lost, which is an important category as it contains sites that have been lost, are no use for visit (unless to disprove the categorisation) and are politically and culturally significant, especially if recently lost to development or lack of care.
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The Fox
July 31, 2008, 7:30am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I agree wholeheartedly about the Lost category as a classification but I cannot image someone looking for Lost items.  However it deserves to be saved from Room 101.

I tried the remains category once and was disappointed. Partly because the way the categories are listed it looked as if  I was only choosing WWII remains and I got the lot which wasn't very helpful!  I still think this category could be dealt with by adding (R) or something similar to the title of the item.
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Apollo
July 31, 2008, 8:50am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Forewarned is Forearmed
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From using other sites that specialise in location based content - which I guess a lot of things in SeSco are - defining an item as Lost is like waving the old red flag to a bull to some folk, they take it as an invitation for it to be proven wrong, and promptly head off to go and find it. A few of us have done this on related sites, and the result has been the rediscovery and documentation of a number of subjects that were classed as Lost by officialdom.

As we've learnt elsewhere, the professionals have limited time to inspect a site, and if they fail to find any immediate evidence of a subject, they're obliged to move on. Also,  many of the existing records were made before there was easy access to the detailed aerial views we now enjoy - I could certainly have benefited from these a few years ago.

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