When you mentioned "Piers" I thought you meant pillars.  These are fishing platforms aren't they.  There is another one or rather there was, further up river on the other side of Dalmarnock Bridge.  They were put in when the walkway was constructed.  Yea verily, the Fox does get about a bit!

No. There is only this group of three, all beside each other, adjacent to the west of the road bridge.

I walked along and past the sewage works to the west, and arrived at the road bridge from the east, so would have seen any others along there. Even guessed right, that they went in with the walkway

Can't see me missing something that size, especially as I was looking for anything interesting. Maybe the locals took the upriver one away and sold it for scrap!

Thinking back, there is another area, quite small and built out from the bank into the river, adjacent to the east/upriver side of the rail bridge. This contains seating, and a fence to stop folk falling off, but unlike the pier, is not barred with fencing along the walkway side, as the piers are now.

I didn't get too close to this for a look, as there was a very large 'gentleman' occupying the bench, looking very door, and looking intently into the river. Didn't move a muscle as I padded past. No cans in sight, but I always seem to pick an Alcy if I get social, so generally 'Run Silent' - doesn't work with Jehova's Witness, as two 'suits' tried to pick me up in the street last night, and get me to church.

The one I was thinking about was about here (:gma-point lat=55.8381689 lon=-4.2040730 .  It may no longer be there as it is years since I was there.

Know what you mean usually, but not always a good idea to avoid people doing strange things, unless they happen to have a large bonfire on the beach that is!

A few years ago on a beautiful sunny summer day two ladies padded up the drive way and asked if I would like to live in Paradise.  I gazed around at the trees, took in the bird song for a couple of seconds and said," I think I already do, thanks all the same".  This answer clearly did not fall within the range of expected answers so they thanked me and toddled off.  Never saw them again.

Almost definitely not anything there now, unless it's hidden by the trees and bushes.

I can be relatively sure because there is a single bench on the walkway path, just to the east of the point given, and was sitting there for quite a while as it was a particularly nice and quiet there, sunny, with a slight breeze, and river running quietly past - hard to believe I wasn't actually somewhere 'nice', if you know what I mean

As an aside, have a look at the are due wast of the point marked, across the river. You'll see an interesting rectangular area.

This is at the back of an industrial area/estate, but seems to be a residential development of some sort, perhaps even a traveller's or showman's site - I'm generalising because I don't know any better at the moment.

The reason I suggest it's interesting is that a zoom in suggests some rather desirable residences in what is an 'odd' location, and that while I was sitting on the other side of the river and watching the activity on the other side, it became apparent that the cars going along the road were distinctly upmarket, with a number of new Porsches (£80 k+) and similar appearing with some regularity as I watched.

Unfortunately I didn't twig to the road layout while I was on the ground, and didn't realise how easy it would have been to walk to the 'rectangle' for a nosey, so am none the wiser as to what/who's there.

I have always wondered why that area of land enclosed by the loop in the river was never developed.  There must be some reason.  

I have no idea what that is but it does look like a travellers' camp.  It is not all that far away from the one we had a thread on before the crash entitled ' Abondonned Travellers Camp '.  That is unless my geography has gone astray or my memory.

Now, at least, I think anyone trying to expand or develop into any of the areas bounding the river would be chased by any of the respective councils involved, plus, I believe from other discussions that many of the areas are also protected because of the flora and fauna they contain.

There's also the other aspect that it wouldn't take much of a swell in the river to engulf anything on the loops.

When the Captain and I wander down around Daldowie, it was evident that even now the river can be seen to be depositing things at surprising levels above where it 'normally' runs.

Here's another couple of pics. The location is easy to spot - it's the triangular corner immediately to the south west corner of the rectangular site marked by the point given above, or due west of the whiskey bond built on the loop to the east. There are few more of those old army-type trailers to the left and right, and some more trucks lying around too.



Closer in, and you can see the truck and flags flying at the door...

The figure standing to the left is not a real person, it's a statue, or dressed up dummy!

Now now Apollo that is just where you would be wrong.  It seems that the area is to be developed into a country park so that the 2012 Athletes and visitors can have a wander.  Just stick Cuningar into Google or whatever and it will throw up several pages.  That name should ring bells as you commented on it in 2005 on Hidden Glasgow!

Development = houses, factories, roads, cars, lorries, traffic, people, sewage, pollution...

I'm just back from Cambuslang Ind Est, and that's now a massive industrial development making use of the existing categorisation of the land to add dozens of new buildings  over brownfield land, almost up to the edge of the river, and probably beyond in the future. Most of the places are distribution centres for the big carriers, so there will eventually be fleets of artics rolling on and off the nearby M74 junction. They already use the streets there as a lorry park, and the drivers (sorry guys) dump their rubbish out onto the pavement, where it gets blown into the trees.

Lots of waffle about the Cuningar Loop, but no action, even with the 2014 Shames, and it's supposed to be kicking off around now, so we'll see.

While I was looking for updates, I came across this, maybe you did too, but it's interesting (if a little mad perhaps  - which is not to rubbish it) given what I hinted at above regarding flooding etc on that particular piece of land...

Plan to float villages on the Clyde

Quoted from Apollo

[1] There's also the other aspect that it wouldn't take much of a swell in the river to engulf anything on the loops.

[2] When the Captain and I wander down around Daldowie, it was evident that even now the river can be seen to be depositing things at surprising levels above where it 'normally' runs.

[1] With respect Apollo I don't think thats the actuality [modern meaningless word I know!] of the physical levels of the riverbanks in that area as your picture of the house with Star Spangled banners and Union Jacks verify, the house must be at least 20 feet above the water, and 20' floods are probably a one hundred and fifty year event [OK thats a guess]. You should remember the that present riverbank heights in the loops of the Clyde in this area are sometimes a result of chrome dumping and other industrial waste disposal practises of the 19th. and 20th. century industrial operations in nearby Bridgeton, Gorbals, etc. which flasely raised the embankments.  

[2] This much is certainly true - and as you rightly say we have witnessed such, of course there was no local industry with waste disposal issues to influence the riverbanks, only Mother Nature and her destructive force has left an impression. Impressive too in places.

A fair point on the flagged house, but I was thinking of development on the (as yet, but possibly doomed by the 2014 Shames) untouched area of greenery on the loop to the north east, which is the area the council want/will take by compulsory purchase from the owners for their athletes' park.

Thinking of Mother Nature, unless I'm mistaken, the route of the river should be pretty stable - I don't think anyone's tried to reroute it. One thing I have learned is that such attempts on even a small river are doomed to failure as the river will always claim its route back, unless someone pays out £££'s forever after to keep the new route in place.

On an unrelated search, I came across the following article from last year, which it will be illustrative to preserve and use for comparison by anyone that make it to 2014 and beyond. It promises all sorts of wonderful benefits for currently deserted Dalmanock, as if holding this event there will have some sort of magical benefits afterwards. If the place was dead before they parachuted a load of visitors in, then it will be dead afterwards if they don't create anything there to keep the place stably populated.

East end hoping to be 2014 winner

We've had an example with the 1988 Garden Festival, which produced a dead site piled with promises of non-existent housing and population development together with businesses, and which is only seeing its dereliction partially made up almost twenty years later.

Walking around Dalmarnock today is like wandering through a desert - even the edges are now populated by decaying an derelict Victorian tenements (being demolished) and even new buildings from the 60s or 70s are empty and shuttered.

Cllr George Redmond is quoted: The east end used to be a vibrant place, full of life. I remember loads of tenements and shops. There was a huge engineering plant and a printing works and power station.

Well, if they don't put something similar in to replace those, there still won't be any life. Velodromes and stadia do not a community make - they're just places outsiders visit occasionally, if they're not afraid to enter the area because of its past reputation.

Captain, have you tried looking at this area using Flashearth?  The various providers have quite different pictures particularly where the high flats used to be.  On ask.com the tenements are still there and the area inside the powerstation is clear of what I assume is dumped rubbish.

The 2 sidings in your aerial pic disappear completely on most but there is only 1 siding on ask.com.

The changes to Virtual Earth - Live Local - maps.live etc etc were announced in here some time ago.

If you read the Blog and the announcements you have a fair chance of getting these toys to play with before most others

The imagery is supplied by GetMapping, and Multimapping and Virtual Earth basically got together and use the GetMaping imagery for the UK now, as it is UK generated and consequently better than anything from America (BUT, having said that, certain American mappers have photo vans out taking the same pics at ground level, and these images knock lumps out the aerial stuff, so there is much more to come) with the alternate content still available from the American side of the site.

If you use Multimap rather than the American Live Local, then you get the advantage of being able to flit about on an OS Ordnance Survey map to find location, and if you activate the Bird's Eye option, then as you mouse over the map, it pops up pointers showing where the Bird's Eye views are available. I don't know if Live Local does similar since I hardly ever go there now, not since Multimap offers so much more usability.

Our maps links on the Main Site pages acknowledge that, and there was a Blog entry some time back as well.

It's not actually a good idea to clip out parts of the images like that, all the images are copyright, and we could get into trouble (sorry).

Better to use the share option towards the top right of the view, copy and paste the link, then there's no comeback.

As with your observation, we noted the pics to be in the order of a year old - but then again that's not really too much of a surprise, since that's when they flew the last pic sorties

The boat yard is ancient, and has been there in some form or another since the beginning of time



I must admit to having been a little surprised to see the boats in water too, and wondered how they got there.

With the weir at downriver, and various potential obstructions upriver, there's not much scope for a day out on the river, certainly not in the order that on the Thames around Richmond.

I couldn't see a name on the boatyard, so couldn't track in down to find out what sort of services they offer, and had guessed that they might just have the boats in the river to store them - they don't seem to have a lot of space - or to carry out tests if they have been working on the hulls.

The boats aren't that big, so they could arrive by road - everything goes by road after all, even rolling stock for the railways!

I thought I'd better add a bit about the map links, just in case I confuse anyone.

You can only post a link to a normal Multimap (or Live Search) map, NOT the Bird's Eye view.

I don't know of this will always be the case, but I have been playing with these for a while, and the option just doesn't seem to be available in any of the tricks I've tried so far, so the rule seem to be a normal link only, with a mention that the Bird's Eye option will be available if you need to emphasise the fact.

As you know, and is fairly obvious, the embedded mapping code on the Main Site uses Google maps - and they have their own version of Bird's Eye views, at street level, although there aren't all that many released in the UK yet.

I did rewrite some of the Google code to use Virtual Earth instead, but eventually decided against it - there were/are too many issues with having more than one map type embedded, the Google code is already written, proven, and working, and there is the ping-pong aspect: basically every so often one of them will have something that the other doesn't, so it's fairly pointless chopping and changing. Especially since we can have them all just by making all the links available on one of our Main Site pages already, and you can choose the one you want, plus a lot more too.